ARF: Notes and Comments: CRUISING WITH RUBEN & THE JETS: Later That Night

CRUISING WITH RUBEN & THE JETS

Later That Night

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	You surely must be trying To break this heart of mine I thought you knew I loved you And we'd share a love so fine But later that night (You threw a) padlock on my door (My) clothes out on the street ('Cause you) don't want my love no more And I cryyyd I-I-I cryyyd Oh, I cried (I cried) My heart out Cried (I cried) My heart out Later that night
From: biffyshrew@aol.com (Biffyshrew) "Later That Night"--the phrase "I cried my heart out" is the title of a song by Jackie & the Starlites, who also did the original "Valarie." (Miles claims that "Later That Night" is a "close parody" of the Medallions' "The Letter," mentioned above; I wouldn't call it "close," but it's undoubtedly something FZ had in mind.)
From: Vladimir Sovetov By the way, is there great difference in words construction kit and its combinations between The Letters and some other Medallions' love songs, Edna for example. I think the answer is not so much. So it's save to say that this is just a parody on a generic doo-woop slow number.

	And I cryyyd I-I-I cryyyd I cried (I cried) My heart out Cried My heart out Later that night (Spoken) Don't go baby, don't put me out on the street. You threw my best sharkskin suit out on the lawn, right on top of some dog waste (I hold in my hand three letters from the stages of your fine, fine, super-fine career . . . ) and my best white shirts with the Mr. B collar laying all over the front lawn. Where's my cuff links? Lemme back in dere. Dere? Ha!
From: Andy Hollinden <ahollind@indyunix.iupui.edu> For a real pants-shitter, listen to "Glory Of Love" by the Velvetones and you'll hear "I hold in my hand three letters from the stages of your fine, fine, superfine career" during the spoken section.
From: Charles Ulrich Zappa mentions the Velvetones in "The Black-Outs": "The Velvetones think they're Lawrence Welk".
From: Andy Hollinden <ahollind@indyunix.iupui.edu> I should have included that this Velvetones song is found on Rhino's The Best Of Doo Wop Ballads CD compilation.
From: martyn@dryden.co.uk (Martyn Dryden) "I hold in my hand three letters from the stages of your fine, fine, superfine career ..." just has to be inspired by "Fine Fine Boy" by Darlene Love (a Phil Spector production), where (spoken, at the end) she goes "My boy - he's a fine, fine, superfine boy!".
From: Vladimir Sovetov Well, here is an answer right from r'n'r oldies lovers Internet wault http://world.std.com/~marc/golq/Answers/ans127.txt
Velvetones: "Glory Of Love" (1957) I hold in my hand, dear, three letters Three letters from the stage of your fine, fine, super-fine career The first began "Eddie, darling, sweetheart, my wonderful one, I will always be grateful for the things that you've done" The second letter came right after I gave you your start Yes, it came from your pen, dear, but not from your heart The third became the joker of the deck You ended your letter enclosed "please sign my cheque" Why you fool! You poor, sad, worthless, foolish fool If you think that money can pay me For the hard years I've suffered till things broke your way Yes, I'm answering your last letter that says we must part I'm tearing it to pieces the way you tore up my heart I smile when you kiss me and I thrill at your touch My only sin was, I love you much too much
Several teams mentioned that this is for the most part the same monologue that had already appeared in Larry Darnell's two-part version of "I'll Get Along Somehow", which was a #2 R&B hit for him in 1949/50. However, the real originator of these lyrics was Bobby Marshall, another singer from Columbus, Ohio. As Darnell later related to Pete Grendysa: "I used to sneak into the Club Regal where he was working in Columbus before I was old enough to walk in the front door, and he was doing the song even then."
CC
Foolish fool also mentioned in Frank song "Carol, You Fool"
From: "Stephen C. Propes" <spropes@loop.com> On this one, "Glory Of Love" by the Velvetones - spoken bridge from Larry Darnell's "I'll Get Along Somehow" - is the absolute source. It's one of those L.A. classics that didn't do much when released in 1957, but got played like crazy by Art Laboe when he put out his first volume of "Oldies But Goodies" in 1958. As such, it became an early "retro" favorite. That's why so many labels & groups that missed the first time out, owe so much to Laboe as well as Huggy Boy.
And as some kind of intermission number I
From: Biffyshrew@aol.com Anyone got a link to a picture of a Mr. B collar (which looked like the Flying Nun's wimple) handy?
From: Patrick Neve <splat@darkwing.uoregon.edu> LOL! Not only that, but a poem. http://www2.gol.com/users/pkohl/past/mrb.html
From: Charles Ulrich See also Watson, pp.123-124 (though of course there's no picture there).
"The Mr. B. collar refers to shirts patented by Billy Eckstine, bandleader, ballader and trumpeter, who devised a method of buttoning that would give his nexk room to swell (a necessity for trumpet-players) without popping the top button."
And as some kind of intermission number II
Lawrence Welk:
Born 11 March 1903, Strasburg, North Dakota Died 17 May 1992, Santa Monica, Calif
From: Unoffical Lawrence Welk site http://lawrence.welk.com/welk.htm The bandleader Lawrence Welk entertained millions around the world with his "Champagne Music." The Lawrence Welk Show, the last musical variety show broadcast on television, provided wholesome family entertainment with over several thousand popular melodies, intricate choreography, and the effervescence of versatile performers. Reruns of the show are currently broadcasted on PBS stations nationwide, and the Welk legacy lives on and off stage at the Welk Resort Centers in Escondido, California and Branson, Missouri.
From: Vladimir Sovetov BTW, what was so special about L. Welk except his German accent?
From: Charles Ulrich <ulrich@sfu.ca> He was pretty much the epitome of "square" music, someone your parents would listen to.

	"Huffa puffa, Huffa puffa There's no room to breathe in here" "That's alright honey. You can come out of the closet now"
From: Vladimir Sovetov Sounds familiar. Definitely a quote! Anyone to identify it?
From: Charles Ulrich <ulrich@sfu.ca> I think "There's no room to breathe in here" was a spontaneous comment about the atmosphere in the recording studio, and "You can come out of the closet now" was Ray's joking response. I don't recognize it as a quote. I think Ray talked about this with David Porter and/or Steve Propes. I'll have to check the tape.

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